Stebbin, R. 1963 84 Ocean Trip Karachi Jan. 20 He is a heavyset, short, broad faced, kindly gentleman in his sixties, I should say. He listened attentively to my description of "guidelines" and expressed much interest in receiving a copy for study. He thought it would be most useful and that although somewhat outside his area of activity would do what he could to encourage its use. An alert, bearded, young physicist was present throughout, Dr. M.M. Qureshi, who is head of the physics division. He has a PhD & DSC and sounded like an Englishman, although a dark-skinned Pakistani. He seemed very excited by the approach of "guidelines". These men are both interested in popularizing science and are involved in the publication of a magazine called "Science Chronicle", copies of which they promised to send me. Qureshi writes books for 4-10 year olds and was much interested in my description of the "tooth pick caterpillar" game I devised to introduce the concept of natural selection to 5th graders. They told me of PASSP - Pakistan Assoc. of Science and Science Professors, 39 Garden Rd., Karachi. At the Pakistan Council of Scientific and Industrial Research headquarters where I visited Siddiqi, there are a number of buildings grouped about a quad. Several