J. Groth 1988 journal 230. which was a grassy mountain meadow. All along this route was a ponderosa pine forest with old cones on the ground and no seed for crossbills. I then continued on the road leading to the spur containing Mt. Union lookout. Some Doug fir along these mountains, but old cones also, and no seed. I drove that morning to a camp along the edge of a large burned area just SE of the lookout; I could see a lookout tower about 1 mile WNW of camp, and I was along a spike ridge facing SSE. There was a trickle of a stream in a gully just W down the road. No crossbills here -- new cone crop forming on the ponderosa pine moderate to good, and the douglas fir also possessing buds about '1/4-1/2' in size - also moderate to good crop. Crossbills should arrive and breed this July-sept in this region. April 7 The dawn broke clear for another sunny day. No crossbills were heard all day. I recorded and then collected a male junco with black eyes. Then, seeing another junco, I shot it. This second one had very yellow eyes (circle with dot) eye, but not quite so light as the true yellow-eyed juncos