J. Groth 1987 journal 196. 6 mi. E Grand Marais, elev. 650 ft. Luce Co., Michigan, then to Ohio July 17 (cont'd) and I heard the calls of a distant Type 3 bird. At about 9:30 am, a pair of gray jays came near the camp, but did not forage near here or act curious about the camp -- just flew off suddenly. I then packed and left, driving E toward Deer Park, Michigan. Along the main road, pines were mainly jack, along w/ red and white, with spruces and larches in the boggy sites. There appeared to be management for red pine in many places, with seed trees left. Also were some white-pines, only a few w/ green cones -- none with old cones (or rare). The red pine was an available food source -- and it's all I saw the crossbills use while they were in the area around the camp. I explored the area around the road between Grand Marais and Newberry -- this looks like good red crossbill habitat -- sandy soil, lots of conifers. The jack pine is probably not used by the red crossbills. From Newberry, I drove S to Toledo, Ohio, and then to a point