J. Groth 1985 journal 28. May 20 at the Chiricahua Natl. Monument, on Thursday & Friday, May 21 We left Tempe at about 9:00 am -- Kathy in her Jeep and me in my truck. We went to Tucson to U of A -- Kathy needed to see somebody @ the Natl. Park Service office on campus -- I met Brian Brown who is on the staff there, once worked with Kathy on the Grand Canyon Surveys - BB is the person involved with the avifauna of GC and the Kaibab areas. We visited the bird collection - met Tom Huels (a grad stdnt of Woolfenden -- coop. br. start in Africa -- never finished)(The collection had about 40 c.c. - miscellaneous Ariz. collectors). We then went to the highway -- ate lunch in the "Dracoons". We passed up @ Wilcox, then went in to the Chiricahuas, up to Long Park, we stopped numerous times along the road between the entrance to Coronado Natl. Forest and the top @ Longs Park - played back crossbill calls but no response. We camped for the night @ Long Park.