B.Shaffner 1976 - Journal Mexico: Oaxaca, vicinity Vista Hermosa. 8 Feb. This roadcut varies from 10 ft -- ~3 ft. high, is intermittent rock, rock + moss, & red clay. We got 9 Pseudoeurycea "lumpy" & 1 Ps. wariiezi , all out & around. Occasionally just the head was sticking out of a crack in the clay, but usually the entire animal was out & it was apparently out foraging for food, mates, etc. It would be of interest to watch them, but it was raining, so we grabbed them & took off. Also, the cracked red clay is definitely the place to get them - although they were found on all of the vertical surfaces. I also got a eleuthyla sitting on the vertical wall - no other frogs were seen. We took off & camped out on the Machin side of the mtn. at a bus stop - it was cold but very beautiful. 9 Feb. Vicinity Llano de las Flores, Oaxaca, Mexico. We got up & went to Oaxaca for business, then worked our way back up Cerro Pelon. The 1st stop - was at an abandoned house 18 km. W. of the town of Guelatao. This area was pretty dry, but we decided to look anyway. I got a Stilopogus by the road, then walked a big, rotten log in the sun in front of the house. Under bark I got a couple of Thorius, & many more inside it - about