K. Selander, 1953 50 Tu xla Guti err, Chiapas, M exico Oct. 21 extensive and almost virgin stand between San Pedro Muniz and Santa Cruz. The second guide said the forest extends for "miles" to the north (This confirmed by Alvarez.) Little is known about the vegetation on top of Monte de la Pluma. The same evergreen forest extends up as far as I could see (+ 700 feet). Alvarez reported pines on the eastern side and the guide reported pines (very large) and oaks and "palms" on the monte, presumably near the top. There are a few oaks near Santa Rita and local stands of oaks near San Pedro Muniz. In light of this information and all of my experiences I suggest the following possibilities: -1. The strange jay is a freak of C. formosa - This would account for its rarity but according to Dr. Pitelka it is unlikely that it is simply a freakish specimen because of the great size, which. -2. Thething is a new species with - A) lives in much the same habitat as C.formosa - possible but improbable? B) lives in the evergreen "rain" forest. Ruled out by Alvarez' work + mine + info from natives? I think this, highly unlikely. and/or "palms" C) lives in the pines on Monte de la Pluma -possible. Only info. I have is that the 2nd guide said there are no large jays on the monte and