Seib, R. 1984 Zihuatanejo, Guerrero, Mexico 10 Oct. I search for a cafetal in the mountains later, but never saw one. 21.8 mi(on the paved rd.) from Mex hwy 200, picked up a NOR Oxybelis geneus, (460m). 28.1 mi (490m) up road, saw first banana plants and passed out posters. It rained heavily, if briefly, 33. mi up road (680m) at 14:52. 36.9 mi up road (1020 m) searched in some bananas and passed out posters. No one along the road knew the salamander. The landscape is totally cut over in most places, but where virgin cloud forest does exist on the steepest slopes there are no bromeliads in which a salamander could live. Also, there is no where to stop to collect, with the exception of road cuts and these latter are usually too rocky to pick at. Cloud forest begins at 1510m, 43.1 mi up road. The crest is 46.9 mi up the road at 1850 m. We drove over the crest where it quickly becomes drier and succulents become common. Still no place to stop and collect, so we drove back to the crest and tried to work road cuts from there down. We caught nothing but an anole, no even seeing a frog. Might drove back to the hwy picking up some Bute colliceps 17.6 mi from hwy, a Leptodeira septentrionalis? 12.9 miles from hwy; A Ilyg