Seib, R. 1984 Mazatlanillo to Zihuatanejo, Guerrero, Mexico 9 Oct also knew the salamander and that it lived in the mountains. They also said they could collect some and leave them at La Placita. 103.3 mi S Tecoman saw a dead Leptophis covered with red ants. 120 mi S Tecoman saw a fearless Grey Hawk on road eating a small mammal. 135 mi S Tecoman stopped at a bridge with a giant cave in front of it. Saw a bicolored hawk and slender Sheartail (hummingbird with forked tail). Night drove to Playa Azul, seeing nothing. Road from Playa Azul to well past Lazaro Cardenas extremely bad. Night drove to Zihuatanejo seeing nothing. Checked in at Hotel Tama, a dinner at Kontiki, and slept. Zihuatanejo, Guerrero, Mexico 10 Oct Woke up late at 11:00, had breakfast and prepared to drive up into the mountains by paved road ~10 mi N Zihuatinejo. At a store in town where I bought some coties I showed the owner and his friend a salamander poster. They both agreed that it lived on their brother's catetral, which is a 4 hr hike from the paved road in the mountains. He said there were two different different species and that he would have his brother collect them by the time I returned to Zihuatinejo on 7 November.