Seib, R. 1981 Ann Arbor, Michigan 21 Aug Today I plan to examine the herp collection in the Museum. Hopefully, I'll be able to find a good student with a car in a few days to be able to go out and collect some snakes. 26 Aug All this week has been spent working in the collection - very productive. This afternoon Arnold Kluge took me to a few wood lots in Ann Arbor and we collect for several hours. At on site we collected a single Thamnophis butleri. I found it under a piece of wood < 1 square foot in a gassy, sunny spot. At a final site, a heavily wooded and humid woodlot we found 12 Ambystoma maculatum, 3 Notopthelus viridescens and a Bufo americanus. The salamanders were underneath fallen logs while the toad was under the bark of a fallen log. Mosquitoes intense, generally more uncomfortable than Chiapas, Mexico in the forest. Southfield, Michigan 30 Aug I left Ann Arbor to spend my remaining two days in Southfield. Went to a state port and collected a variety of herps. Saw a large Chelydra serpentina after a rain in a grassy