Nov. 29 Sunny, not windy. In the afternoon went with Anta and Paula Sago up to Refugio Navarreyes and then up to the summit above the Refugio. The larger leaves were out, the average height up maybe 6 inches. The snow was slightly less than during our visit a year ago (which was 2 weeks earlier in the season). Almost no clou-clous whereas last year lots of steel traps at three-to-four places all tops, and Anta set some soft traps in a meadow of trap. Looked them up about 1 ½ hrs later, nothing. Most impressive was the quantity of earth cores left by the snow melt, presumably from Chelamys; in some places above the Refugio the ground was quite riddled if the 2 ¼" cores did not begin to flatten out, they would have covered about 1/3 the total surface of the ground. Most striking is the observation that there's no Amaray (and hardly any other herbs) in the affected areas. Since Chelamys in captivity eat the succulent stems of Amaray, it is possible that Chelamys spends the winter burrowing for Amaray roots. Anta found a dead snake along the trail, and in a fresh foot? droppings was a 1 ½ inch hairy, bi-cornual tail that looks like the tail of Abrasoma ceneris or some similar hystricognath,