The quality of the prints is poor (in the old photos), and he says negatives are not available. He agrees with Carlos that we know that millores were not here in the old days. He says there used to be many more scabins (scrub) that were drained to grow potatoes. Charlie dropped in and he reported that 20 traps high on Cerro Gofez caught 3 colla leopards. Valverde dropped in to discuss his proposed PhD thesis, and Palomino dropped in to discuss going with me on a collecting trip. Dec 10 Sunny. Drove to Cabrera dam to see if we could find a cableway to follow. 5 DOR bars on the road between Vizual and Copinemia, most of the bulldozing for the newer is complete. We found one dory working in an unproductive place near Copinemia; nothing ran out. Stopped at Estancia Chocobuco to see if any falcon atlas. Several numbers of scorpions, one number of Oryxops (probably poisoned), and one small cluster of about 8 scorpions in one crevice. Collected 5 of them including a new-born young with altered hrocodiles and some young males. They were alert enough to fly but not squawking noticeably. Stayed for asado lunch with administrator Peter Dumfries and 3 visiting Yankee captor specialists = paleonores. They had been down into Santa Cruz and had with them 3 live pallid/pergrines and said they had found mixed clutches of normal and pallid pergrines as well as mixed pairs. They were: Brian Willoof, Raptor Birding, Raptor Info Center, NWF, Wash, DC 20036,