P. PEARSON 1958 the Schries and cactus. First begins at 10,500ft., some real trees in the gulley near this altitude, but lower down becomes cactus + thorn with sugar cane, orange, and boronas. The river is ±6900ft., with real thorn forest along the edges. The road up/out of the Rio Panza to Chivleros is along a densely brushy south facing slope with greenward etc., most of the brush being Schries and Scotch brooms. The opposite north facing slope is drier, barer; in lower part has large capiz trees draped with Spanish moss. The ichm country between Ayacubos and Rio Panza is quite sparsely populated. Numerous shepherds with sheep, cows, + boronas, but few houses, possibly because of little water. No llamas! The ichm looks dandy for Ph. ozual. At 2:30 I saw the road drop off toward the river and had to decide whether to camp or make a run for it. Decided to try to get down and up the other side, but no Phylotis - looking places offered before Chivleros, and above Chivleros it got dark, with continual row of houses along the road. Camped along road maybe 20 minutes above Chivleros; no trips out. Right about where Viveras and Tamoran appeared, bandids became much more abundant. Saw more big boulders in half from there than on rest of trip. Just right in the goat brush 2 miles from Ayacubos, I could hear the low fidelity public address