LIDICKEN 1981 Sage, 10 cont. the two chairs - "them within" committee investigating the Warsaw zoo which apparently is in terrible condition. Had long discussion w/ Wtadystaw Aulak who is botanist in Roman's group. He is doing coherent analysis (i.e with results) of species of herbs growing in forest. Very interesting results, but lacks evolutionary perspective. The detailed data on growth, productivity, dispersion of the species while collecting about ~98% of vegetation on forest floor. Then Roma, Krzysztof & Zbigo for Rogow visit is a large research station operated by Warsaw Agric Univ. It is a few miles east of todaj. We took lift up to SW going to Katowice, then turned W toward Lodz at Rawa Maz. Rogow is ~10-15 km along this road. Roman told us about plans for a new town to be developed NW of Warszawa utilizing ecological principles & nature conservation as guidelines. Roma is involved in the planning & has taught ecology to some women government minister who is also an architect. She is helping to get architects & biologists together - the planning process. We had "Lunch" about (Jagow) 1530 at a small village near Rogow in a small private restaurant. The meal was very good. Rogow is a beautiful estate with dormitory for 200 students, classrooms, orchestrum & botanic garden. The orchestrum has all species of computers from N. America represented as well as many gardens. The place have a museum with mounted birds or insects - old Polish species being represented. Then on