C. Kotford 15 Journal 4 June 1972. Rancho Grande, Venezuela. Llanos area). Parrots, toucans, aspandlers close around buildings. Aspandlar building nest. Nestling in martin nest higher. W-throated swifts off feeding. Warm & nearly clear in morning; foggy later; then heavy rain showers. Much traffic on road - people cooling off minute or going to beach. / Talked with Paul Schwarz, who has been recording bird sounds here the last four years. He knew little of jaguars, though he had occasionally seen one fleetingly. He thought large pors hunted, and said that a recent confiscation included about 13 000 ocelot skins. He thought cattle depredations occurred, but never compared to handling losses. Considerable burning on Llanos, to make grass grow early. Rancho Grande 5 June 1972. Mar. Station under Miss Agnes & Chris, Div. Resources Nat. Renovables. In Venezuela, 7 national parks (H. Pittier, 90,000 h., is here), 7 forest reserves, 3 natl monuments (Aljardro Humboldt box guechano cave). / Met Jose Luis, a forester and helper here. He said raining & flooded in Llanos now. Jaguars abundant in NW Amazonas. Much hunting in Apure on ranches, but still jaguar there. / Juhani Ojasti here several years; worked further, copy- Darar. Agreed now flooded in Llanos, remote roads impossible. He said Amazonas and adjacent Bolivar is wet forest, few inhabitants, mostly Indians, primitive wildlife conditions. Northern Bolivia was people - cattle, gold, diamonds. Still much hunting Apure. One someone asked Rodriguez (Univ. Central) how many jaguars he killed; he said, w. brother, 70 in 2 months (years ago). Also saw jaguar in Lara, Anzoategui, said J.O. He thinks they don't do fairly well even when land given to grazing. Fair nor. ocelots in delta of Orinoco. Jaguar on ranch of friend,